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認(rèn)為Solaris免費(fèi)的看過來,睜開你的慧眼好好看一看 [復(fù)制鏈接]

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發(fā)表于 2010-02-25 15:27 |只看該作者 |倒序?yàn)g覽
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認(rèn)為Solaris不要錢的請仔細(xì)學(xué)習(xí)和研究一下Solaris的許可。

http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/popup.jsp?info=17

Solaris 10 Download Customers
Obtaining an Entitlement Document is simple. On the Solaris 10 Get It page, select the platform and format you desire from the drop-down menus, and then click the Download Solaris 10 button. When you arrive at the Sun Download Center, either sign in or register, ensuring that a valid e-mail address is part of your Sun Download Center account to receive the Entitlement Document. Fill out the Solaris download survey, specifying the number of systems on which you are installing the software. Once you have completed the survey, you will be redirected to the Solaris 10 download page for downloading, and your Entitlement Document will be sent to your registered e-mail address. Please remember, your right to use Solaris acquired as a download is limited to a trial of 90 days, unless you acquire a service contract for the downloaded Software.

請問,你們填寫完調(diào)查信息后,有幾個人收到過SUN的PDF的授權(quán)文檔?(我原來收到過,可以安裝100臺SPARC服務(wù)器,和100臺X86_64服務(wù)器,可惜那封郵件后來不知道哪里去了)
如果紅色字體部分看不懂,請找你們公司的律師。

http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/licensing/sla.xml
Solaris操作系統(tǒng)的許可協(xié)議中寫得非常清楚授權(quán)使用的場景,請問你真的按照這些要求在使用嗎?
3. Permitted Use.

As selected in your Entitlement, one or more of the following Permitted Uses will apply to your use of Software. Unless you have an Entitlement that expressly permits it, you may not use Software for any of the other Permitted Uses. If you don't have an Entitlement, or if y our Entitlement doesn't cover additional software delivered to you, then such software is for your Evaluation Use.

(a) Evaluation Use. You may evaluate Software internally for a period of 90 days from your first use.

(b) Research and Instructional Use. You may use Software internally to design, develop and test, and also to provide instruction on such uses.

(c) Individual Use. You may use Software internally for personal, individual use.

(d) Commercial Use. You may use Software internally for your own commercial purposes.

(e) Service Provider Use. You may make Software functionality accessible (but not by providing Software itself or through outsourcing services) to your end users in an extranet deployment, but not to your affiliated companies or to government agencies.

所以Solaris的商業(yè)使用是一定需要錢的,其他應(yīng)用場景只有在不需要補(bǔ)丁不需要安全的情況下才是不需要錢的。
1、安裝媒介需要花錢,$30美元(http://globalspecials.sun.com/st ... productID.140434200),如果是下載的請一定要確保你有SUN的授權(quán)PDF文檔;
2、服務(wù)要錢,$324美元起(http://globalspecials.sun.com/st ... productID.140431600);
3、如果你是下載的并且有SUN的授權(quán)PDF文檔,那么你無權(quán)下載和安裝補(bǔ)丁,否則依然需要花錢。
4、不花錢又能保證業(yè)務(wù)連續(xù)性(主要是安全)的一定是盜版,是違反SUN的license的。

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發(fā)表于 2010-02-25 15:30 |只看該作者
你花了$30美元購買了Solaris安裝媒介,是否就不需要付費(fèi)了?錯了!還是在http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/popup.jsp?info=17,還是需要注冊并獲得授權(quán)文檔。
Solaris 10 Registration Process for Non-Download Customers
If you obtained Solaris 10 by means other than a download or are installing Solaris 10 on systems that have not yet been registered, you must still register to receive an Entitlement Document that gives you the right to use the software past the 90-day evaluation period and for commercial purposes. Follow the same process described above for download customers. After completing the download survey, you will be redirected to the Solaris 10 download page for downloading. Simply forego downloading; your Entitlement Document will be sent to your registered e-mail address.

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發(fā)表于 2010-02-25 16:06 |只看該作者
我2月在真機(jī)上下載了X86的solaris10,看看90天后會有什么反應(yīng)!
Cc3415728 發(fā)表于 2010-02-25 15:42


license是兩個層面的東西,技術(shù)上的和法律上的。

Solaris并沒有在技術(shù)上做任何限制,安裝過程中也不需要輸入序列號(從Solaris誕生起就從來沒有序列號一說,雖然Solaris在SPARC平臺的應(yīng)用程序總喜歡拿hostid作為授權(quán)的參考,但實(shí)際上SPARC平臺的Solaris在安裝時也是沒有序列號一說的),你沒有注冊,如果使用場景又不符合許可文件中規(guī)定的要求,那么實(shí)質(zhì)上你就是侵權(quán),人家就可以拿起法律武器保護(hù)自己的權(quán)利。

這點(diǎn)和Oracle一樣,你現(xiàn)在Oracle的安裝媒介,在你的機(jī)器上安裝了,學(xué)習(xí)和研究,符合OTN的許可,可以不用付費(fèi);但是同樣的安裝媒介,你安裝在產(chǎn)品系統(tǒng)上商用。在技術(shù)上是沒有限制的,也是可以正常使用的,當(dāng)然了,你無法從Oracle獲取補(bǔ)丁。你的這種非法商用行為一旦被Oracle知道,人家一起訴,你就等著賠錢吧。
同樣的,微軟的產(chǎn)品,有技術(shù)上的限制,也有法律上的要求,但是你通過獲取一個序列號,非法使用Windows,那么依然是軟件生產(chǎn)商可以起訴你。

很多人分不清license的技術(shù)上和法律上要求的兩面,以為是一回事;或者是知道了也不遵守,最終是害人終害己啊。

因此現(xiàn)在就可以清楚地告訴你,90天以后你的計(jì)算機(jī)在技術(shù)層面不會發(fā)生任何變化,它和今天的區(qū)別唯一的就是90天以后如果你的計(jì)算機(jī)使用用途不當(dāng),而且剛好Oracle又拿到相關(guān)證據(jù)、并且剛好你這個公司又值得起訴,那么就可能會被Oracle公司起訴。當(dāng)然了,由于實(shí)際情況也是比較復(fù)雜的,依然只是存在起訴的可能而已。

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發(fā)表于 2010-02-25 16:38 |只看該作者
本帖最后由 洋芋環(huán) 于 2010-02-25 16:47 編輯
認(rèn)為Solaris不要錢的請仔細(xì)學(xué)習(xí)和研究一下Solaris的許可。



Solaris 10 Download Customers
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wuqing 發(fā)表于 2010-02-25 15:27



  我把那個郵件找到了

  

Thank you for registering your Solaris 10 systems. This is your entitlement document. This document is your proof of license for Solaris 10; please print it and keep it in a safe place. You can also view translated versions of a generic entitlement document.

If you change the systems on which you have Solaris 10 installed, you must update your registration. The entitlement only provides rights to use Solaris on registered systems.

THIS ENTITLEMENT EVIDENCES YOUR AUTHORIZED SCOPE OF USE UNDER THE TERMS OF THE SUN MICROSYSTEMS, INC. SOFTWARE LICENSE AGREEMENT FOR THE SUN SOFTWARE INDICATED BELOW (THE SLA) UNLESS OTHERWISE AGREED IN WRITING BETWEEN YOU AND SUN MICROSYSTEMS, INC. (SUN). Capitalized terms not defined in this document have the meanings ascribed to them in the SLA. These terms will supersede any inconsistent or conflicting terms in the SLA.

Licensee/Company: 洋芋環(huán)
Beginning Date of License Term: 11-JAN-2009 12:43:56 PM
Solaris 10 Operating System, 3/05, 1/06, 6/06, 11/06, 8/07, 5/08, 10/08, 5/09, & 10/09 update releases
Permitted Use: You may use Solaris only in one of the following ways: (1) if you have obtained a system from Sun or one of Sun’s partners that includes a license for Solaris, you have a perpetual right under that license to use only the version that was installed on the system (no right to use updates, or upgrades to Solaris is included unless you acquire a service plan that includes this right); or (2) under a valid, existing license for Solaris and properly acquired Sun service plan that includes rights to updates or upgrades to Solaris; or (3) under the trial use terms below to which you must agree before downloading Solaris.
License Term: Perpetual (subject to termination under the SLA)
Licensed Unit: Registered Computer System

Additional Terms:

1.0 License to Develop. You are authorized to develop software programs utilizing Software. If you desire to develop software programs which incorporate portions of Software (“Developed Programs”), the following provisions apply:
(i) you may not modify or add to application programming interfaces associated with Software;
(ii) you are not licensed to use fonts within Software to develop printing applications unless you have secured valid licenses from the appropriate font suppliers;
(iii) incorporation of portions of Motif in Developed Programs may require reporting of copies of Developed Programs to Sun; and
(iv) you will indemnify and defend Sun and its licensors from any claims, including attorneys’ fees, which arise from or relate to distribution or use of Developed Programs to the extent these claims arise from or relate to the development performed by you. This Section 1.0 does not apply to the Sun GlassFish Enterprise Server, Sun GlassFish Message Queue (formerly known as Sun Java System Message Queue), Sun Directory Server, and Java 2 Platform, Standard Edition (“J2SE”) included in or bundled with the Software. In addition, J2SE that is included in or bundled with the Software is subject to the Sun Software License Agreement and the free use Entitlement for the Java Standard Edition Development Kit found in the /usr/java/ directory, which contains, among other things, use limitations for J2SE in embedded applications.

2.0 No Diagnostic, Maintenance, Repair or Technical Support Services. The scope of Your license does not include any right, express or implied,
(i) to access, copy, distribute, display or use the Software to provide diagnostic, maintenance, repair or technical support services for Sun software or Sun hardware on behalf of any third party for Your direct or indirect commercial gain or advantage, without Sun’s prior written authorization, or
(ii) for any third party to access, copy, distribute, display or use the Software to provide diagnostic, maintenance, repair or technical support services for Sun software or Sun hardware on Your behalf for such party’s direct or indirect commercial gain or advantage, without Sun’s prior written authorization. The limitations set forth in this paragraph apply to any and all error corrections, patches, updates, and upgrades to the Software You may receive, access, download or otherwise obtain from Sun.

3.0 Records and Documentation. During the term of the SLA and Entitlement, and for a period of three (3) years thereafter, You agree to keep proper records and documentation of Your compliance with the SLA and Entitlement. Upon Sun’s reasonable request, You will provide copies of such records and documentation to Sun for the purpose of confirming Your compliance with the terms and conditions of the SLA and Entitlement. This section will survive any termination of the SLA and Entitlement. You may terminate this SLA and Entitlement at any time by destroying all copies of the Software in which case the obligations set forth in Section 7 of the SLA shall apply.



有個翻譯了的中文版

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發(fā)表于 2010-02-25 16:40 |只看該作者
Free Solaris Program
Membership Activated
Welcome to the Free Solaris Program! We have verified your email address and you have been granted access to the program. Please click on the links below for more information:

Solaris 10 Overview and Home Page

Download and Installation Self Help and FAQs

Solaris 10 Overview FAQs

Solaris 10 Product Feature FAQs

Learning Centers

Support and Training

BigAdmin Community and Portal for System Administrators

BigAdmin Newsletter

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發(fā)表于 2010-02-25 16:51 |只看該作者
Permitted Use: You may use Solaris only in one of the following ways:
(1) if you have obtained a system from Sun or one of Sun’s partners that includes a license for Solaris, you have a perpetual right under that license to use only the version that was installed on the system (no right to use updates, or upgrades to Solaris is included unless you acquire a service plan that includes this right); or
(2) under a valid, existing license for Solaris and properly acquired Sun service plan that includes rights to updates or upgrades to Solaris; or
(3) under the trial use terms below to which you must agree before downloading Solaris.

License Term: Perpetual (subject to termination under the SLA)
Licensed Unit: Registered Computer System
洋芋環(huán) 發(fā)表于 2010-02-25 16:38

你把這一部分內(nèi)容仔細(xì)看看就知道Solaris廠商也就是原來的SUN到底授權(quán)你可以做什么和不可以做什么了,理解理解這些紅色字體標(biāo)注的詞語的修飾和限制,就可以深刻理解到底是否需要錢,到底是否如很多人所想象的那樣免費(fèi)了。

想要你的Solaris系統(tǒng)安全嗎?想要補(bǔ)丁嗎?想升級嗎?

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Free Solaris Program
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Welcome to the Free Solaris Program! We have verified yo ...
洋芋環(huán) 發(fā)表于 2010-02-25 16:40


Free是免費(fèi)的意思嗎?
免費(fèi)是Free的意思嗎?

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發(fā)表于 2010-02-25 16:57 |只看該作者
你把這一部分內(nèi)容仔細(xì)看看就知道Solaris廠商也就是原來的SUN到底授權(quán)你可以做什么和不可以做什么了,理解 ...
wuqing 發(fā)表于 2010-02-25 16:51



只是貼出來,以前沒認(rèn)真看過

說實(shí)話,這東西看的頭大

新裝系統(tǒng)以后,用我的賬號進(jìn)行注冊,可以聯(lián)網(wǎng)自動升級,這個到底什么意思?是所有的賬號都可以這樣,還是我的賬號已經(jīng)有授權(quán)?

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發(fā)表于 2010-02-25 17:05 |只看該作者
還想請教一下樓主,為什么你得到的是有數(shù)量限制的授權(quán),我的確沒有數(shù)量和時間限制呢

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發(fā)表于 2010-02-25 17:05 |只看該作者
只是貼出來,以前沒認(rèn)真看過

說實(shí)話,這東西看的頭大

新裝系統(tǒng)以后,用我的賬號進(jìn)行注冊,可以 ...
洋芋環(huán) 發(fā)表于 2010-02-25 16:57


這些內(nèi)容一般稍微正規(guī)點(diǎn)的公司都是交給律師看,一段一段,一句一句,逐詞逐字地審核才可以的。

注冊以后是可以更新的,不過只包含安全的部分補(bǔ)丁,不是所有。
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